Topic: FMC-104 External Clock Input Signal Restrictions?  (Read 10821 times)

norume February 11, 2015, 04:23 PM

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Can the external clock input be driven with a 117.33 MHz clock at a 33% duty factor (~2.84 ns high, ~5.68 ns low) or does the signal have to have a 50% duty factor for things to work properly?

iklink February 13, 2015, 07:42 AM (#1)

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Dear,


The external clock must have ~50% duty cycle. The ADC datasheet defines 40% to 60%, if you would provide such a clock there is a risk that the digitial interface to the FPGA will not work properly.


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Ingmar van Klink
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norume February 13, 2015, 11:57 AM (#2)

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I wasn't clear enough with my original question.


I plan to use the external clock input as a reference to the AD9510 PLL -- so the ADCs will still see a 50% clock assuming that the AD9510 can accept the 33% duty cycle reference.  I see nothing on the AD9510 data sheet about restrictions on the reference clock.  Doesn't say that it won't work, but doesn't say that it will, either.


My question was really:
1 - whether or not the FMC-104 circuitry between the front panel connector and the AD9510 would pass the asymmetric signal properly
and
2 - if anyone had experience running the ADC9510 with an asymmetric reference clock.

iklink February 16, 2015, 07:04 AM (#3)

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Hello,


Regarding your questions:
1. The external reference goes through some AC-coupling caps and through a balun, I don't expect issues with passing the 33% duty cycle reference, however I wouldn't be surprised if this affects the phase noise performance of the PLL.
2. No we don't have experience with an asymmetric reference clock.


For external reference usage you will have to disable to on-board reference osc. The enable of the on-board oscillator is pulled-up by default and therefore enabled. This enable must be pulled to ground. This enable pin is not directly available on the FMC connector of the FMC104. It is connected to the STATUS output pin of the AD9510.
You will have to program register 0x08 bit [5:2] with value 0000 to pull this signal to ground. Please refer to the AD9510 datasheet and the reference app. It should be enough to change line 210 of FMC10x_clocktree.cpp:


  sipif_writesipreg(bar+0x08, 0x6F); Sleep(10); //charge-pump normal, status Hi-Z = internal ref


to:


  sipif_writesipreg(bar+0x08, 0x43); Sleep(10); //charge-pump normal, status '0' = external ref


Best regards,
Ingmar van Klink
4DSP

arnaudNL February 17, 2015, 02:41 PM (#4)

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Dear Sir,


I assume the answer was satisfactory? Please let me know if I can proceed with closing this topic.


Best Regards,
Arnaud

arnaudNL February 20, 2015, 11:58 AM (#5)

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Dear Sir,


I will close this topic on Monday unless you have something to add.


Best Regards,
Arnaud

norume February 20, 2015, 01:12 PM (#6)

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Thanks.  FWIW, I decided to try to avoid the 33% duty cycle issue by replacing the firmware divider with an MMCM block which can produce the required reference at a 50% duty cycle.  This means that the reference clock for the AD9510 PLL on the FMC-104 will be provided by another PLL (inside the MMCM).  I hope this will work at least as well as the hardware approach.

arnaudNL February 23, 2015, 05:06 AM (#7)

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Dear Sir,


Thanks, this sounds good. I am happy to see you are able to move forward.


I am closing this topic, feel free to open any new topic if you need that in the future.


Best Regards,
Arnaud

arnaudNL February 24, 2015, 07:42 AM (#8)

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This topic is being closed because the issue is considered as resolved by 4DSP. Feel free to create a new topic for any further inquiries.